I’m glad Obama beat Clinton in Iowa
January 5th, 2008I’ve been following both the Democrat and Republican primaries closely. No, I’m neither a Democrat nor Republican. In fact, there’s too much I dislike about both of those parties. I still follow them, because most likely, we’ll have one or the other.
For the Democrats, I’ll gladly favor Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton. Obama is a uniter, Clinton is a divider.
There’s not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there’s the United States of America.
-Barack Obama (2004)
This is exactly what I want to hear. I’m tired of hearing politicians mention race and I’m tired of hearing Newspeak and Time magazine telling us over and over that Barack Obama is black and Hillary Clinton is a woman. You think I can’t tell that myself? Screw you, Newspeak and Time! My subscriptions have been canceled by the way.
Hillary Clinton recently implied Lou Dobbs was racist. Lou Dobbs happens to be one of my heroes. He stands up for the American working man and woman. He fully realizes that the rich and the big corporations use illegal aliens to undercut the working class. You don’t have to pay illegal aliens benefits, nor do you have to follow safety standards.
If one dies working, bury him (or her) and get another. Hillary Clinton, being in the Upper Class (”New Rich” technically), benefits from that. Lou Dobbs and Barack Obama are aware of this and are both willing to discuss it.
The other great thing Dobbs does is he talks the truth about outsourcing. I’ve heard first hand people in my profession say how great outsourcing is, until they find their own job outsourced, their savings depleted, and their credit card debt going from null to big $$$. Then suddenly, they’re against outsourcing. So of course it’s all good until it happens to them.
Barack Obama’s Iowa Caucus speech specifically mentions outsourcing:
I’ll be a president who ends the tax breaks for companies that ship our jobs overseas and put a middle-class tax cut into the pockets of working Americans who deserve it.
Thank you Mr. Obama. I hope you win the Democratic nomination. Ideally, I’d love to see Ron Paul vs Barack Obama, two people I can actually stomach. If it’s John McCain vs Hillary Clinton, I’m going to be sick.
Personally, I was hoping that Lou Dobbs would run for president. I know both Reps AND Dems who like what he says. He might have had a shot at uniting the country.
Do you ever get the feeling that the Reps and Dems have already picked their candidates, and the whole primary/caucus thing is just a sham?
i cannot tell you how elated i was to see hillary handed her ass in that primary. yeehaw!!! i hope this keeps up.
i’m also neither democrat nor republican because i find them both so odious….hillary is certainly among the most odious
Lime - Yes she is. What I hate is when I critique something about Hillary, sometimes here being in politically correct San Francisco, I get the old “you just don’t like her because she’s a woman.”
Come on, people. That’s soooo lame. I don’t like her because there’s not much to like. I vote for issues, not the candidate and certainly not the party.
Tshsmom - I felt that way last time around when the Democrats snubbed Howard Dean in favor of the awful John Kerry. I actually felt Dean was tolerable, but God forbid he showed some feelings, of an almost human nature. Can’t have that.
Why do you, like everybody else, completely ignore John Edwards? He came in second when everybody thought it was going to be between Hillary and Obama. I’m a Democrat and a woman and I don’t like Hillary
For the past few months I have lived with a sick feeling in my stomach about how inevitable Hillary’s nomination was suppose to be. Slayer is right, Hillary is a divider plus being one of the most phony people ever to see the public light. Obama’s speech that night in Iowa was the best and most hopeful I had heard in a long time. I see in him a person who does believe something other than paying off his elite friends. While I do not agree with everything he stands for he will have my vote for the primary. I also have to state that I like many things Ron Paul stands for but right now the country isn’t ready for him.
I’m rooting for Obama. (Ron Paul is cool but he’s got as much as a chance as a midget in a high-jump competition). If Obama becomes president, he should get Jericurls. Could you imagaine the president giving speeches and meeting world leaders, and doing this all rocking Jericurls? It would be the coolest thing ever.
definitely not much to like about hillary. i seriously cannot believe the people of NY state fell for her line of BS and elected her to represent them.
and lmao @ skeltor and jercurls. dude, jericurls are so 80s. obama should go rasta and get dreads if he is gonna be outrageous.
Lime - His face is too thin for dreads. I agree with Skeletorsambora. He’d look better with jericurls.
And I can’t believe the people of NY were that dumb. But then again, half of them are after all Yankees fans.
Skeletorsambora - It would be cool. I wish my hair was that curly, but it doesn’t curl enough for them.
Beach - I’d love for Paul to be President. He’s a Constitutionalist, someone we could use. But after seeing Obama’s speech, I actually won’t get sick if Obama got elected. I really like the guy.
Kathleen - When I finally get around to doing my health care post, you’ll see why. People like John Edwards are the reason why we pay so much for health care. He’s successfully sued hospitals for hundreds of millions of dollars, and has a net worth estimated over $50 million, all of which he got by suing hospitals.
Lawyers like him are the reason we pay so much in health care. If you follow the money trail, it’s the lawyers and the insurance companies that are making the big money in medicine nowadays, not the doctors. After a lawsuit, to generate a profit, hospitals have to raise their prices which of course get passed to us. So you can thank John Edwards for your medical insurance premiums going up this year.
I love the way you speak your mind and at the same time respect others for speaking theirs even when they may differ with your opinion

You have won a ‘You Make My Day’ Award
yankees fans….*shudders
mr. lime grew up in northern NJ and fortunately is a mets fan, as is the boy. yankees….*shudders again
Obama voted to renew the Patriot Act. Full stop.
Miladysa - Thanks. And I like your fiction.
Lime - Good. I hate the Yankees.
Scott - Thanks. Did not know that.
Everyone - Ron Paul did NOT vote for the Patriot Act.
I was happy about Obama until I learned that his church does not allow or welcome Caucasians. I cannot stand Huckabee and Ron Paul lost me on his television interview when he started talking about how the Civil War should have been fought. I think he was reaching a bit there don’t you? I truly don’t like any of them!
Of course the civil war shouldn’t have been fought. No war SHOULD be fought, but least of all one in the name of saving a Union that was meant to be volunteer in nature. What could possible be more ridiculous than killing 600,000 Americans to “keep them together.”
I copypaste what I wrote on Oswegan post, it’s what I think and I didn’t change my mind yet!
I am very interested by what you all are going to say about American elections, it’s going to be fun.
“About American politics, I don’t think that we, foreigners have our word to say, on my side I don’t know much about American Democrats and Republicans, I should learn a bit as you all are going to talk a lot about it.
But I would say that I like Mrs Clinton and I believe she would be a great President. (sorry to interfere)”.
Oh I am glad too Zombie. Obama is looking to me like a man whose for the American people. Let’s just hope that he doesn’t go the way that all other politicians go and speak useless words. Wouldn’t that be a nice change? …a politician who actually says what he means and means what he says.
Moni - I’m pretty conservative economically, so Obama talking about tax cuts would be really nice. We’ll see what he will do about spending. Well, he can’t possibly be worse than Bush, who makes Jimmy Carter look like a conservative.
My big beef with him is he voted for the Patriot Act, but so did the other candidates besides Ron Paul. I’ll be voting for Ron Paul, but if I had a gun to my head and had to choose a Democrat, it would be Obama.
Kitem - I feel ignorant. I know your President, Sarkozy. I know he wants to be closer to the United States and is an economic conservative, and will try to jumpstart a currently slow French economy. I don’t know much else about French government. I know you have a Prime Minister too, but if I’m not mistaken, the President has more real power.
Scott - I used to think the Civil War was about ending slavery. Now I’m rethinking what I thought. It was a lot more complex than that.
Granny - I like Paul because he has the best understanding of our Bill of Rights, is not a war hawk (or chickenhawk in the case of the current Administration and its pundits), would cut taxes and spending, and greatly reduce the role of the government.
I am really rooting for Obama (as I’m sure you know). Did you hear about Hillary’s pull from Karl Rove’s playbook in New Hampshire? Telling people that if we elect “the new guy” like they did in Britain, that Al Qaeda will exploit that and attack… Yep. She said it. Now I’ve lost all respect for her.
Kinda funny - I was a Clinton supporter until I saw her televised meeting in New Hampshire where she got teary-eyed. That may have turned some people to vote for her, but it turned me off. In a president, I don’t want someone to show his/her emotions like that. It came across to me as her wearing down from all of the campaigning.
Laura - That crap belongs in the Bush Administration. I can’t believe she stooped that low. Wow!
Notta - Yeah, you absolutely have to keep your cool if you’re President of the United States. Imagine if that happened when we’re discussing a possible war with other world leaders. Or a solution to a really bad disaster.
I’m glad too Zombieslayer, for the same reason(s). I’m female, but my nether regions have nothing to do with voting.
Doesn’t anyone remember Whitewater and the rest of the Clinton nonsense???
I’m not a fan of Hillary, but I didn’t have a problem with her getting teary-eyed…especially as there have been plenty of male politicians who got all teary-eyed and it didn’t hurt them at all. The two Bushes come to mind. I like to know they’re human and who says you can’t be human and a good president?
Both Hillary & Bill were found not guilty of anything in the Whitewater scandal. Just more bullshit Republican rhetoric.
Sorry, ZS. I’ll behave.
Wow! Sorry there ZS, to be annoying you in the archives - with way out of date comments (and the perspective of hindsight.)
WOW!! Those Clintons, aren’t they just a hill of fun? Remember when good old Bill did his buddy Tyson a favor and put Hudson Foods out of business by levying fines on them that they could not IN ANY WAY pay? Oh yeah. Now Tyson is in the dog house with the FDA (but not for long) over saying their chickens are ‘free of antibiotics’. LLIAR! But Tyson is friends with Bill, so perhaps that is an oxymoron?